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Green Power Takes Root in the Chinese Desert

NEW YORK TIMES -- DUNHUANG, China — As the United States takes its first steps toward mandating that power companies generate more electricity from renewable sources, China already has a similar requirement and is investing billions to remake itself into a green energy superpower.

Through a combination of carrots and sticks, Beijing is starting to change how this country generates energy. Although coal remains the biggest energy source and is almost certain to stay that way, the rise of renewable energy, especially wind power, is helping to slow China’s steep growth in emissions of global warming gases.

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bikechuck Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:1,265 Points:820,870 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:24:37 AM Ignore bikechuck Report Abuse I hope they can 'clean up' their act. If coal is good enough for them, why not us? Indiana and midwest states supposedly are going to be hurt the most by cap and trade legislation.
Ringmaster2008 Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,527 Points:296,285 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:22:05 AM Ignore Ringmaster2008 Report Abuse We all have to try
BBHybrid Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:2,089 Points:417,000 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:21:16 AM Ignore BBHybrid Report Abuse they pollute more than they save the environment
fltdoc Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:2,121 Points:348,440 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:21:00 AM Ignore fltdoc Report Abuse Isn't it great to know that another country is ramming this down the throat of their 'citizens' too?
ghmortensen Veteran Author Minnesota Posts:392 Points:623,745 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:19:10 AM Ignore ghmortensen Report Abuse Right!
Rick01 Champion Author Utah Posts:2,559 Points:1,132,335 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:15:17 AM Ignore Rick01 Report Abuse Sounds good. Hope everyone will start.
kruk Champion Author London Posts:1,889 Points:212,425 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:14:39 AM Ignore kruk Report Abuse soon China will be leading country in renewable energy
car253 All-Star Author Ohio Posts:956 Points:299,690 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:14:38 AM Ignore car253 Report Abuse Under Obama the US has no coherent energy policy.
Mooseman1 Champion Author Manitoba Posts:4,018 Points:659,010 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:14:23 AM Ignore Mooseman1 Report Abuse We all need to do our part.
Lukus Champion Author Halifax Posts:2,057 Points:425,025 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:13:32 AM Ignore Lukus Report Abuse Solar and wind is the new way.
dhawk24 Champion Author Maine Posts:1,649 Points:398,175 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:12:01 AM Ignore dhawk24 Report Abuse Good for them.
Wolfwings Champion Author Delaware Posts:2,493 Points:548,325 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:11:09 AM Ignore Wolfwings Report Abuse A step foreward, however small, is still a step foreward.
Jamer Champion Author Orange County Posts:2,541 Points:423,285 Joined:Jul 2002	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:11:05 AM Ignore Jamer Report Abuse I'll believe it when I see it.
PaylessKY Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,430 Points:377,430 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:08:32 AM Ignore PaylessKY Report Abuse China needs to clean it air, very bad pollution.
Marson Champion Author Scranton Posts:2,943 Points:860,795 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:08:24 AM Ignore Marson Report Abuse Our Cap & trade concept is going to be a debacle. We need to have engineers and scientists determine our energy policy.
Matts_Pap Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:3,136 Points:546,815 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:08:16 AM Ignore Matts_Pap Report Abuse The only green China cares about is our Dollars.
DABEE1073 Champion Author San Diego Posts:1,528 Points:311,985 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:07:21 AM Ignore DABEE1073 Report Abuse THEY ARE DOING ALL THIS WITH OUR MONEY.
BartBuzz Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,400 Points:523,060 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:06:36 AM Ignore BartBuzz Report Abuse I'm all for a greener planet. But history proves that anything the government mandates ends up increasing costs.
goldilox88 All-Star Author Montreal Posts:817 Points:342,155 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:06:30 AM Ignore goldilox88 Report Abuse The Chinese always take a proactive strategy with aims to sell its technology/product to the world.
AuburnTim Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,377 Points:585,930 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:05:35 AM Ignore AuburnTim Report Abuse As long as the same old people go back to Washington year after year and both parties can't work together for any reason the US will not do a thing until they are forced too.
ttwiw All-Star Author Austin Posts:833 Points:657,020 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:05:24 AM Ignore ttwiw Report Abuse China having alt fuel while still growing demand for coal is like a girl promoting abstinance yet continuing to sleep around
pricechecker08 Champion Author Ohio Posts:2,679 Points:553,040 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:04:34 AM Ignore pricechecker08 Report Abuse you here the samething every day. Not worth reading anymore.
lindact Champion Author New Haven Posts:2,588 Points:512,735 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:01:22 AM Ignore lindact Report Abuse China's pollution problems are bad; they aren't waiting.
techque Champion Author St. Louis Posts:2,458 Points:1,256,510 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:00:47 AM Ignore techque Report Abuse so this helps wal-mart, but not the rest of us.
PizzaMon Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:2,181 Points:711,920 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:56:36 AM Ignore PizzaMon Report Abuse Let's let them take the initiative and monitor the costs and results achieved.
Bleeder Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,585 Points:550,640 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:54:28 AM Ignore Bleeder Report Abuse Wonder what the Chinese government thinks about the increase in oil prices now.
bicycler Champion Author Ontario Posts:8,246 Points:1,449,610 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:50:46 AM Ignore bicycler Report Abuse This seems to be a move in the rifgt direction.
pattie09 All-Star Author Charleston Posts:988 Points:237,925 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:49:23 AM Ignore pattie09 Report Abuse WE BETTER KEEP OUR EYES ON THIS!!! THEY MAY BE UP TO SOMETHING
brutus Champion Author Alberta Posts:3,529 Points:1,289,840 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:49:08 AM Ignore brutus Report Abuse I agree with AvantiMick
Lengas Champion Author Gary Posts:6,760 Points:1,453,610 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:49:00 AM Ignore Lengas Report Abuse Good idea for China.
throttle Champion Author Maryland Posts:6,416 Points:1,377,010 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:47:58 AM Ignore throttle Report Abuse The President and Democrats in Congress are still resisting more nuclear power plants in this country.
fire@53 Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:5,675 Points:1,553,595 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:47:58 AM Ignore fire@53 Report Abuse Ok, with all those people China must do something to curb emissions.
KillChain All-Star Author Albuquerque Posts:813 Points:319,725 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:47:57 AM Ignore KillChain Report Abuse I agree with Gas Slave.
Gas Slave Champion Author Lansing Posts:1,920 Points:503,200 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:47:06 AM Ignore Gas Slave Report Abuse Why not nuclear?
DerHahn Champion Author Illinois Posts:6,214 Points:861,995 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:45:15 AM Ignore DerHahn Report Abuse it this is true, why is china hoarding all the oil and gas it can get it's hands on? what are they up to?
cableman31 Champion Author New York Posts:2,616 Points:788,765 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:43:42 AM Ignore cableman31 Report Abuse Naturally, while we talk, somebody else moves.
Pede Champion Author New Jersey Posts:2,074 Points:273,800 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:42:32 AM Ignore Pede Report Abuse China has the largest carbon foot print on the earth so they should be more concern about renewable sources and greener energy supply.
REKEY Champion Author South Carolina Posts:2,243 Points:458,440 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:41:22 AM Ignore REKEY Report Abuse The Gobi desert becomes the Gobi forest.
bumpygas Champion Author Nebraska Posts:2,164 Points:678,815 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:41:08 AM Ignore bumpygas Report Abuse All financed by the U.S. Obama and his band of idiots will see to it.
jackson661 Champion Author Columbus Posts:1,162 Points:308,195 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:39:37 AM Ignore jackson661 Report Abuse China is really surging ahead in the renewable sources of energy ..the USA will have to catch up.
AvantiMick Champion Author Indiana Posts:6,690 Points:1,331,950 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:36:58 AM Ignore AvantiMick Report Abuse They better hurry with the population they have.
danny999 Champion Author Florida Posts:2,218 Points:391,255 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:36:07 AM Ignore danny999 Report Abuse CHINA DOES WHAT CHINA WANTS TO DO.THEY WOULD DO ANYTHING TO MAKE U.S. LOOK LIKE THE BAD GUYS.
roadkillGA Champion Author Georgia Posts:3,312 Points:471,025 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:33:54 AM Ignore roadkillGA Report Abuse Send Gore to China
Lovelee Champion Author Detroit Posts:12,379 Points:804,725 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:31:05 AM Ignore Lovelee Report Abuse Good for China. Better late than never.
buckoMD Champion Author Maryland Posts:3,240 Points:711,950 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:29:20 AM Ignore buckoMD Report Abuse They'll never be a world power that way.
CSharpGuy Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:3,105 Points:638,710 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:26:11 AM Ignore CSharpGuy Report Abuse Global warming again! What a hoax. You realize with the U.S. being regulated to "go green", your electric bill will double or more. Did you also know that global temperatures have been dropping the last three years.
VREP Champion Author Vermont Posts:1,531 Points:328,395 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:25:44 AM Ignore VREP Report Abuse Good for China.
Bubba44612 Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,285 Points:639,530 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:25:35 AM Ignore Bubba44612 Report Abuse We should be doing this here.
cincindie Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:9,784 Points:1,936,545 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:24:20 AM Ignore cincindie Report Abuse As usual they are far ahead of us in thinking about the future.
silverfox63 Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,926 Points:387,790 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:23:54 AM Ignore silverfox63 Report Abuse With all of the pollution in China, they will need more than a green desert to help their problems.
indyjim Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:3,320 Points:1,067,115 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:21:16 AM Ignore indyjim Report Abuse Good for them.
RambleOn Champion Author New York Posts:1,032 Points:378,945 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:21:05 AM Ignore RambleOn Report Abuse I fully agree with BrianK299. Ziyulu, get your head out of your A**!