paulweb

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 11:37:28 AM
And why are we not surprised???
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Snowchoux

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 11:34:24 AM
Just Grin and Bare-it.
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russ117044

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 11:20:55 AM
All Politicians are greedy, selfish. Even the one who aren't, are. All Politicians drop to their knees and service wall st. Similarly, wall st owns big oil. Both Democrats and Republicans are equally worthless... But HEY! Its black Friday! Lets go shopping!
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jethro5000

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 10:46:44 AM
Politicians only worry about themselves...
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99dakota

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Providence
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 9:49:37 AM
Consumer prices are generally outside the power of politicians to change.
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SuziLew

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California
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 6:10:15 PM
Politicians main concern is to protect their jobs, which means very few stick their necks out to change the status quo.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 7:24:47 AM
delta, PD's posts are never news, they're always op-eds.
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Delta258

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Fresno
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 1:57:54 AM
old news.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 12:29:28 AM
we wouldn't have this issue if Pig Oil would fork over enough money to make things work and keep working, rather than let refineries run into the ground.
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Gas4Gore

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 8:42:52 PM
As always.
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Donatelo

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 11:07:19 AM
ok
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oilfreak

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Houston
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 8:55:11 AM
Just more boring talk from politicians.
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drpepperTX

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Texas
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 10:40:17 PM
The gnu remains hopped up on HOPIUM Alaydown, facts remain beyond of his realm of comprehension. My only use of the ignore feature has been very judicious on the gnu.
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benjy

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 10:19:49 PM
the election is over, all they will do is talk now....
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Pete12

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Albany
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 9:37:18 PM
Get rid of the speculators!
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gravityhurts

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:12:34 PM
Still just talking
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Alaydown

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 6:47:13 PM
Sadly Gnusman53, I posted all facts. If you have a specific point that refutes what I posted, then let's see it.
It is amusing that your handle "Gnusman" is like newsman -- which is typical of the left wing media.
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 3:37:07 PM
Maybe its all that tainted kool-aid alaydown & pals have been spreading around...
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 3:35:34 PM
Seems the fact-free are grazing around here alot lately... (grin)....
too bad they can leave fantasyland...
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 3:32:32 PM
Sadly... alaydown's posts continue to be a laugh riot.....
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 3:30:39 PM
Looks like "Che" Listerone is off his meds --- again... (grin)
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Cheepo

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 2:39:13 PM
Talk, talk, talk!!! Talk to barrack huseein and drill baby drill!!!!!!!!!!
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CapriceWagon

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Washington
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 1:33:22 PM
California is a good example of how not to do things.
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Rhino8of8

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Wisconsin
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 12:32:12 PM
I had two different thoughts while reading this. First was a bit of 'tooting my own horn'... with the slightly subtle "I told you so's".
But, looking past the writing style, there is a good chunk of truth in it.
The issue is that a blog (in my mind) is not the same as a "press release". Someone said it below - do you think democrats in Cali READ this blog? But, if it went to something like AP - then it gets a bit more widespread. Posting to a blog of people already in the know - I just don't know if it has the same impact.
Maybe I'm not as tech-savvy about blogs. But then again, how many politicians are the same way?
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bluebird1

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 12:17:59 PM
Headline says it all....first they need to regulate (again) the commodity mkts but that has to be worldwide or restrictions on foreign trading + NA restrictions.
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CostEngineer

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 12:05:17 PM
Not surprising
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Alaydown

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:43:42 AM
Is PD serious??? Does he really think that the DemocRAT politicians in California read his blog? That is laughable!
California's statewide gasoline taxes and fees total 50.5 cents per gallon, the second highest in the nation, just behind New York (51.3 cents per gallon). When the federal gas tax of 18.4 cents per gallon is added, Californians pay 68.9 cents in taxes for every gallon of gas they purchase. That means for 15 gallons of gasoline on a fill-up, we pay more than $10 in taxes.
Additionally, California's general sales tax and various local sales taxes are levied on the sale of gasoline — and the sales tax is calculated after the state and federal excise taxes are added to the price, so motorists pay a tax on a tax.
California has the highest statewide sales tax rate in the country. We have the third-worst state business tax climate in the nation. California has the second-highest rate of personal income tax.
Clearly connected to the tax rates here, the state also has the 3rd highest unemployment rate in the country at 10.2 percent, which is underestimated because of the number of those who supposedly left the work force because they gave up looking for work. The liberal politicians in this state don't care about the people here.
If the DemocRATs who control the government of California cared about gasoline prices, they would not have passed AB32 which limits greenhouse gas emissions, and they would allow gasoline from other states to compete with gasoline refined in this state.
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Lologogo

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:37:58 AM
ok
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RUNNINONEMPTYFL

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Florida
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:31:27 AM
Here we go again...
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Settjec

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Little Rock
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:21:50 AM
I have stated on here many times before, OBUMMER is behind the price hikes.
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spotterFL

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Florida
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:20:45 AM
Just build geothermal power plants and convert autos to all-electric with 400-mile extension cords and the problem will be solved. /;<[@)
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bridgerunner

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:18:18 AM
A little less government intervention.
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99church

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:17:25 AM
Less talk more action
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9C1

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:15:57 AM
All the problems cited in the article deal with refinery or distribution issues. They have nothing to do with the supply of crude, domestic or foreign. There is plenty of domestic crude. The issues are in refinery capacity (NIMBY) and distribution - stations without back-up power.
[Edited by: 9C1 at 11/15/2012 11:17:22 AM EST]
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gafgar

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:14:06 AM
talking is what they do best
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MalibuGordie

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California
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:14:00 AM
How can you tell if a polititian is lying? His mouth is moving!
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Black Wagon

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:12:59 AM
Well if they were re-elected you know they aren't going to do anything.
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lindact

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New Haven
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:12:17 AM
It's just that - Talk...
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buzzieNY

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:12:03 AM
Politicians won't do anything about gas prices because Oil companies will stop their kickback money for re-election campaigns..
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mrservonics

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Boston
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:11:47 AM
More tax please, supersize that! NOW fix the roads?
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ZeroBoxes

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:11:35 AM
A person chooses to be a part of the problem and whine or they STAND UP and DO something to mitigate to problem. This is still ONE nation OF the people; that is you, and you, and you, and you, and me. Lead, follow, or get out of the way.
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DABEE1073

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:11:34 AM
TALK IS CHEAP, IT TAKES MONEY TO BUY WHISKEY .
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robb88

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:11:23 AM
i have a slight different opinion with the author of the article. I think the local and state officials are doing very well in response to the high gas prices and gas demands on both the East and West coast. When Gov. Christie in NJ said he'd start implementing EVEN-ODD gas rationing, that took a bold step that other governors don't want't to follow, but fortunately the NY gov. followed through as well. I'm proud of those guys to make those decisions. And for the gov of California to respond to the gas prices as he did was the best he could do. Unfortunately, Cali has shot themselves in the foot because of their combinations of stricter than avg gas requirements and shortening in supplies due to the supply stations burning down. There's only so much local and state level officials can do, and I think they've been doing a good job. It's the Federal officials we should complain about, and hold accountable. They should pay.
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eaglev

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:10:44 AM
Open up public land again, drill off the coast, build new refineries, and new nuclear plants and in 6 years we will be energy independent.
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AriesMMD

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:10:10 AM
Politicians from both the major parties take "contributions" from oil companies. Why would they do anything that might endanger their "golden goose"?
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ssnvet

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California
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:08:53 AM
State legislators have the power to determine what happens in their state - look at California, do you actually believe the oil companies legislated the laws that caused the high prices? Are you that uninformed?
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Rick01

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Utah
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:07:54 AM
Get control of Wall Street again and then it will go down.
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badbonita

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Syracuse
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:07:31 AM
So what do they want now? The elections are over for at least a few weeks. I'm so happy to be able to watch Tv without the 40 polical ads per hour - or so it seemed. Now it's Black Friday ads.
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us30ride

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Fort Wayne
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:04:56 AM
They don't care, they need the contributions.
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dan30thz28

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:04:48 AM
Big oil and big banks run the country, not our government...simple as that.
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