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Divided Europe: Car Industry Winners and Losers Drift Apart

Der Spiegel Online -- A two-tiered industry is emerging among European automakers. While German brands BMW, Daimler and Volkswagen are reporting record profits, competitors Opel, Peugeot, Renault and Fiat are struggling to survive. The word "blood" is often mentioned in connection with the crisis in the European automobile industry, a sector that accounts for about 12 million jobs.

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Submitted Feb 14, 2013 By: Teslukbla

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