lesndave

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Texas
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 10:52:25 PM
Time will tell
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sciotosix

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 4:52:07 PM
Renewables should make faster gains.
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drobbbb

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:02:49 PM
renewables on the rise, US needs to be a leader
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kishoreCA

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Ventura
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 3:34:21 PM
ok
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rampower80

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 2:32:07 PM
We as taxpayers have spent hundreds of billions of dollars since the mid 70s on alternative fuels, and they still can only produce a fraction of our energy needs and can't be sustainable financial without government subsidies.
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tamiuron

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Laredo
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:34:59 PM
Keep producing and innovating.
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DirtDauber

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:33:56 PM
SOS = Same old stuff.
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72_Monte

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:30:39 PM
More of the same - greed and highway robbery.
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vamike

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:30:29 PM
Don't forget liquid corn.
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gasper

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Edmonton
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:29:40 PM
Self reliance on natural fuels is a good start.
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AC-302

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:28:56 PM
The only reason the "green" energy grew was because of exorbitant subsidies. It seems to me if green is worth doing, it ought to make economic sense WITHOUT the government having to pay for it.
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TXGasPriceSpy

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:24:50 PM
Amazing!!!
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JeffNStef

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Montana
Posts:882 Points:1,622,850 Joined:Oct 2007
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:23:24 PM
Merry CHRISTmas fellow GasBuddies as you take the day with family & friends. Don't forget whose birthday it is!
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Noewal

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Virginia
Posts:817 Points:246,580 Joined:Jul 2008
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:22:30 PM
"Green" energy will continue to depend on Government subsidies and will NEVER be affordable without them!
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hmw10284

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California
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:20:38 PM
Oil is renewable. naturally it takes millions of year but can be done in the lab in a matter of weeks. Not viable yet but ....
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MINIWINI598

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Washington
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:20:12 PM
Bring on 2013 - hope it's a better year
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Fitwit

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Stockton
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:20:08 PM
Try to keep the price down. It's cold out there.
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Cheepo

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:19:32 PM
Oil is renewable!!!!!!!!!!
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geezrtek

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:19:23 PM
"The word 'alternative', with its connotations of hand-wringing greenery and a need for taxpayer subsidy, has to go," How about replacing it with "high cost unreliable". And what has to go is the taxpayer subsidies.
The enviro-MENTAL-ists continue to reject the 24/7 renewable power, hydro and geothermal. Those technologies should not be subsidized but not hindered with gubmint red tape either.
What we need to do with the money that is being squandered on the Solendras and wind farms should be put into a Manhattan project style effort to develop fusion power. If we can get fusion to work, it will change our civilization for the better.
[Edited by: geezrtek at 12/25/2012 1:22:46 PM EST]
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neptune2008

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:19:11 PM
wind solar water...precious resources
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RC_RACER

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Tacoma
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:18:58 PM
Merry Christmas to all that celebrate and Happy Holidays to all.
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timesaverinc

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Wichita
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:17:36 PM
I agree with Eagle Scout, need more options
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eagle_scout

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:15:55 PM
There isn't one replacement for gas/oil...it needs to be multiple sources. THAT will help sustain us in the future. Reliance on one energy source for transportation is not good.
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dlzastera

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:15:32 PM
I'm fond of ethanol myself.
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snappytom2

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Corpus Christi
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:14:18 PM
The transition to alternate energy is well on its way to the benefit of all of us.
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Snowchoux

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:13:50 PM
If it works, good.
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Redink

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:11:30 PM
Alternative enrgy is our future, but big oil will fight it.
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Tiernan2012

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:11:13 PM
Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year!
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thirstyauto

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:10:41 PM
The more alternatives the better!
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MadTraveler

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Idaho
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:09:58 PM
Old
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srchr

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:04:18 PM
"alternative" energy - waste of taxpayer $$$$$$$$$$
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RobertSpratt

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:02:57 PM
whats next. higher prices.
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genoist

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Orlando
Posts:341 Points:165,470 Joined:Nov 2008
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:01:32 PM
Hopefully renewable energy sources will gain a stronger foothold in the next year(s).
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NightRider

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:00:27 PM
Keeping my fingers crossed.
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driveonby1

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:00:22 PM
I'm all for renewables (wind, solar, etc.) as long as we DO NOT continue to subsidize them with our tax dollars. If they're going to survive, let them do it on their own, thank you.
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vjs3

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Denver
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:59:24 PM
Yep, time will tell.
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Beboper

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:58:08 PM
Time will only tell
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Emmamae1

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:57:53 PM
good
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nsdp

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:10:54 PM
Actually there has been significant movement on renewable energy. See US Patents 8169101 and 8256219., They will make storage of electricity feasible at costs less than NG generation will help stabilize the grid and waste is purer water than you have ever seen. Prototype testing is at West Texas A&M's Alternative Energy Institute. University of Delaware has already done the mathematical modeling using real time operations of the PJM grid which is 30% of all electricity in the US. If you care to read the study http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378775312014759
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bell05

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:31:48 AM
That's right Discovery02
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millerin

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Orlando
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:02:34 AM
we'll see...
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Discovery02

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Colorado Springs
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 10:19:43 AM
"Alternative Energy" needs to become the standard.
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cheap59

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 9:14:02 AM
Let's wait and see!
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gmcgas

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 8:52:07 AM
and the prices rise.
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zwsn01

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Alabama
Posts:692 Points:465,070 Joined:Jan 2012
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 8:50:35 AM
Go CNG!
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humblepie

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 7:52:26 AM
just look at greece and spain to see america's future
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Nancy&Len

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 5:41:36 AM
Amen 5Golfer8.
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pricewar

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Ogden
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 3:07:08 AM
its all based on speculations. they make it in their favor
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goldrose1

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 2:52:15 AM
When alternative catches up with traditional production, then it will no longer be alternative. Long ways to go!
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wally52

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Little Rock
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 2:36:49 AM
Anything just as long as it brings down the price of gas.
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