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Virginia Tries to Circumvent Obama on Drilling

NY Times -- WASHINGTON — When Doug Domenech looks out at the Atlantic Ocean, he sees oil and natural gas and jobs and revenue. Standing between him and those prizes are President Obama, the Navy and whales.

Mr. Domenech, Virginia’s secretary of natural resources, is undeterred. He and the state’s Republican governor, Bob McDonnell, have teamed up with Virginia’s two Democratic senators to try to do an end run around the president and put Virginia’s coast on the energy map through an act of Congress.

The state is trying to restore a lease sale for energy exploration that was canceled in 2010 after the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. Its efforts have made Virginia the new epicenter of a campaign by energy companies to gain a toehold in the potentially vast resources hidden beneath the Atlantic.

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,632 Points:1,610,495 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 5:53:53 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse Hemond: any time, any day.
Hemond Champion Author Providence Posts:8,193 Points:133,625 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 7:35:49 AM Ignore Hemond Report Abuse Whats going on in Virginia is the real America. Not the ugly vision of America Obama offers. Kudos to them. Down with the ugly Euro-weenie loving model Obama presents. Virginia leads the way back to our roots. This is how things are done. How soon can I move there?
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,632 Points:1,610,495 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 7:29:49 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse Let's see, BP was involved in the Exxon Valdez mess (could have been almost avoided if BP hadn't lied about what it had available on hand in Valdez). It was involved in the Macondo well blow out (i.e. "Deep Water Horizon") and in the bad fuel. For the latter, it will pay about $12 million, for the former it will pay $4.5 billion in addition to money already paid. And possibly more. I don't remember what the cost of the Valdez situation was for BP. So... does VA really want to be doing clean up for the next 20 years? Isaac sent oiled bird on shore--2 1/2 years after the Macondo well blew and there was no visible surface oil left.
Cheepo Champion Author Tampa Posts:9,889 Points:3,128,005 Joined:Apr 2003	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 2:47:12 PM Ignore Cheepo Report Abuse Bravo virginia, states rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MAC48 Champion Author Dallas Posts:1,549 Points:767,005 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 5:47:06 AM Ignore MAC48 Report Abuse It is both prudent and in the long term national interest to determine what potential oil and natural gas reserves are available along the US Atlantic coast. In this policy battle, one certainly hopes that Virginia wins both for the sake of current and potential employees in that state and for possible enhancement in the US strategic position relative to our need for crude oil and natural gas for the foreseeable future.
Bonanza Champion Author Boston Posts:12,093 Points:2,551,980 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 5:35:36 AM Ignore Bonanza Report Abuse Good for VA
epf Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:6,339 Points:1,892,330 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 5:21:03 AM Ignore epf Report Abuse Glad to see this story had appeal.
1fulltank Champion Author Buffalo Posts:7,908 Points:1,545,285 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 12:43:23 AM Ignore 1fulltank Report Abuse Maybe a "screen" pass would be better.
CiVX Champion Author Oakland Posts:7,055 Points:1,359,610 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 12:22:22 AM Ignore CiVX Report Abuse Circumvent circumcise whats the difference?
jtfftj Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:2,180 Points:1,249,135 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 12:07:16 AM Ignore jtfftj Report Abuse Won't happen.
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,857 Points:1,613,225 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 12:06:48 AM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse Got to be extremely careful working in such a dangerous environment. An oil spill there could be picked up by the Gulf Stream and carried north and east across major fishing areas and conceivably all the way to Britain and Ireland. A daunting prospect.
farn1958 All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:886 Points:183,385 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 12:06:03 AM Ignore farn1958 Report Abuse ok
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:5,497 Points:1,511,355 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 12:03:31 AM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse Democrap
shields9 Rookie Author Denver Posts:9 Points:3,930 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 12:00:58 AM Ignore shields9 Report Abuse all we need is a chesapeake spill
Piggy1959 Sophomore Author Fort Worth Posts:166 Points:110,495 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 12:00:07 AM Ignore Piggy1959 Report Abuse I sure hope secretary Domenech wins this battle, right along with Virginia's two democrat Senators! Ha!
jjjleblanc Champion Author Rochester Posts:5,877 Points:1,519,305 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:57:56 PM Ignore jjjleblanc Report Abuse Good luck with that.
Thomtec Champion Author Nashville Posts:2,464 Points:608,145 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:57:37 PM Ignore Thomtec Report Abuse The byline of this story is ridiculous .
gd83goldwinger Champion Author South Bend Posts:1,428 Points:504,980 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:57:34 PM Ignore gd83goldwinger Report Abuse Always something.
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,212 Points:873,340 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:56:11 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse But this is a state that voted for Mr. Obama and his policies.
arb0526 Champion Author Greensboro Posts:1,981 Points:411,595 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:53:57 PM Ignore arb0526 Report Abuse Ok...when a leak occurs it will travel north past the Capital...thanks to the gulf stream
Mr_Bill_W All-Star Author Virginia Posts:566 Points:359,010 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:53:08 PM Ignore Mr_Bill_W Report Abuse @ OWG - The Commonwealth of Virginia does not have an abundance if political idiots... If that's what one seeks they only need to drive across the Potomac River in to DC and there you can find the biggest political idiots this country has to offer...
69Bonne Champion Author Gary Posts:1,155 Points:474,125 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:52:50 PM Ignore 69Bonne Report Abuse Go for it!
dcone2 All-Star Author Los Angeles Posts:924 Points:85,610 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:52:10 PM Ignore dcone2 Report Abuse ok
Mariuxus Champion Author Chicago Posts:3,765 Points:1,872,040 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:50:18 PM Ignore Mariuxus Report Abuse ok...good luck, keep trying...but..?
NemoIL Champion Author Illinois Posts:3,030 Points:1,314,195 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:44:17 PM Ignore NemoIL Report Abuse Our dear leader will never let them drill....silly rabbit.
jimpricehunter Sophomore Author Dallas Posts:242 Points:148,985 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:43:34 PM Ignore jimpricehunter Report Abuse "OGW": I just showed my approval of your comment on the last article. On this article...well considering where you are from...I will just hold my peace and not say anything now. But I am really happy to see how the republican Governor and secretary of Natural Resources have figured how to join up with their democrat Senators to win this battle. Go for it, Mr. Domenech.
tidalwave3 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:1,305 Points:1,464,545 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:39:52 PM Ignore tidalwave3 Report Abuse Somebody needs an energy policy
mcmonsta Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,232 Points:819,520 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:37:59 PM Ignore mcmonsta Report Abuse many problems mean more solutions...some more creative than others!
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,329 Points:1,532,975 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:34:59 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse Virginia is full of idiots, especially their politicians!
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mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,071 Points:1,732,210 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:29:53 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse good luck with that he said he can do better than before
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:8,809 Points:1,844,425 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:28:53 PM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse I agree with you gasgo123.
pgerassi Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:10,901 Points:2,132,580 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:26:55 PM Ignore pgerassi Report Abuse Everyone has an agenda.
gasgo123 Veteran Author South Carolina Posts:279 Points:1,770,690 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:25:50 PM Ignore gasgo123 Report Abuse Obama will do anything to keep us dependant on the muslim country.
Lou08 Champion Author California Posts:1,084 Points:252,410 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:24:03 PM Ignore Lou08 Report Abuse It's really in poor taste to circumcise Prs.Obamoa per article:-(
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,927 Points:1,575,955 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:20:33 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse notice the level of respect the president is held at...
danreino Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:8,358 Points:1,541,705 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:16:39 PM Ignore danreino Report Abuse Better get at it soon since the Chicoms are drilling 20 miles off of Dauphin Island Alabama and will soon be within sight of Virginia Beach also.
nsdp Champion Author San Antonio Posts:1,117 Points:47,315 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:13:32 PM Ignore nsdp Report Abuse Since none of you have any experience with exploration with a geological feature similar to this google Exxon Destin Dome oil exploration. That will tell you why the last time these tracks were offered in the Reagan Adm the tracks drew no bids. This is the same sort of structure as Destin Dome and I don't see any one working offshore US clamoring for this sale. Is any one here smart enough to know what I am talking about? The Infamous Failure Destin Dome emitted a different kind of siren's song in the early days of Gulf exploration, when industry was looking at shallower potential prior to the big Norphlet play activity that began close to shore and eventually migrated offshore to the structure. "There was a big lease sale in the early '70s," said Layton Steward, "and everybody was bidding on it." Steward, an AAPG member, now retired from the helm of LL&E, was offshore manager for Shell at the time. The objectives then were primarily for Cretaceous reservoirs, said consulting geophysicist Mike Forrest, another Shell hand during that period. The sale occurred about six years after Shell developed bright spot technology, according to Steward, who noted the bright spot concept originated with Forrest (May 2000 EXPLORER). "We couldn't see any bright spots, so we used the technology in reverse to modify our bids," Steward said, "and bid only on one tract mainly to be sure we were represented on it." He noted that natural gas wasn't worth much then, so Shell went after a tract downdip from the crest hoping to find an oil leg instead of gas. "This was a huge-but-late structure geologically, and it had us worried a bit relative to the migration and entrapment of hydrocarbons on it," Steward said. "Exxon and Champlin pretty much bought the whole thing," he added, "and a bunch of the Champlin guys, including the senior-most executives, were fired because they so overbid the sale. "They may have just assumed it was a big ol' anticline full of hydrocarbons." The dome lies 25 miles south of Pensacola, Fla. The large, west-northwest trending anticlinal feature is more than 50 miles long and 20 miles wide and with a relief of 3,000 feet on Lower Cretaceous rocks. It apparently is the result of a salt swell that was uplifted during the Late Cretaceous and early Cenozoic, according to an article in the AAPG BULLETIN (1997: Ball, Martin and Taylor). From the American Association of Petroleum Geologists. Bulletin [Edited by: nsdp at 11/14/2012 11:16:12 PM EST]
dumba55 Sophomore Author Chicago Posts:142 Points:37,225 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:13:29 PM Ignore dumba55 Report Abuse good
Wanda127 Champion Author Florida Posts:2,499 Points:915,880 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:11:46 PM Ignore Wanda127 Report Abuse "Mr. Domenech, Virginia’s secretary of natural resources, is undeterred. He and the state’s Republican governor, Bob McDonnell, have teamed up with Virginia’s two Democratic senators to try to do an end run around the president and put Virginia’s coast on the energy map through an act of Congress." Good for them! I thought Bob McDonnell is a Great Gov. when I lived there.
munch252 Veteran Author Cleveland Posts:282 Points:138,235 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:11:26 PM Ignore munch252 Report Abuse I'M WITH YA vIRGINIA. wHY SHOULD THE PREZ HAVE AUTHORITY OVER LAND OFF VA? CIRCUMVENT AWAY! aCCORDING TO A CONGRESSMAN IN DISTRICT 2 DRILLING OFF VA WOULD CREATE 18000 JIBS. i AM ALL FOR IT! [Edited by: munch252 at 11/14/2012 11:13:17 PM EST]
SavALot Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:8,474 Points:1,712,585 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:10:45 PM Ignore SavALot Report Abuse Virginia with their issues
drz614 Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:2,304 Points:598,595 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:09:57 PM Ignore drz614 Report Abuse we need more refineries, less idiotic fuel blending, and gas companies to expand n.g. infrastructure
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,993 Points:1,113,430 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:09:36 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse The Navy can train in deep water and the whales can swim in deep water??? This must be part of the All Above energy plan???
MG_Sputnik Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:7,315 Points:1,961,605 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:07:07 PM Ignore MG_Sputnik Report Abuse We're all doomed!
Mudsprings Champion Author Fresno Posts:52,929 Points:3,075,275 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:06:50 PM Ignore Mudsprings Report Abuse Great for Virginia! We'll be next if we can convince Feinstein and Boxer and Brownie.
serrog Champion Author Nova Scotia Posts:5,569 Points:1,513,105 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:06:44 PM Ignore serrog Report Abuse Figures
vibdata Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:4,090 Points:849,300 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:05:56 PM Ignore vibdata Report Abuse These people seem to think natural resources are just a windfall to be had for the taking. This view of the world is 18th century and will get you into a lot of pollution and corruption you never thought possible.
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